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#1 OFFLINE   TeoTheGreek13

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Posted 22 March 2012 - 05:34 PM

...was playing big minutes, in my opinion, he'd be the leading shot blocker in the NBA.

He plays very few minutes and I've seen him blocking 4 shots in 10 minutes or something. He also had a 6 blocks game this season, in few minutes ofcourse.
He has 1.2 blocks in 10.7 minutes.
That means 5.3 blocks per 48!


If he wasn't the top shot blocker, he'd be top-3 for sure.
I think he'd be #1 though.

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Posted 22 March 2012 - 05:39 PM

he is an excellent shot blocker that's for sure.

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Posted 22 March 2012 - 05:41 PM

He is a great player. His play style actually reminds me of Bill Tlrussell. Not nearly as good, but both good shot blockers, and good rebounders. I hop we keep him because he will be one of the elite defender in the league someday.

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Posted 22 March 2012 - 05:45 PM

Yeah he is a great blocker

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Posted 22 March 2012 - 05:54 PM

He is a great player. His play style actually reminds me of Bill Tlrussell. Not nearly as good, but both good shot blockers, and good rebounders. I hop we keep him because he will be one of the elite defender in the league someday.

dont copy mike and tommy... (that's what they think).

But yeah he is a pretty quality blocker and I dont mind having him on the team. I do think he deserves more minutes.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 03:03 AM

dont copy mike and tommy... (that's what they think).

But yeah he is a pretty quality blocker and I dont mind having him on the team. I do think he deserves more minutes.

Lol yeah I got it from them but I agree...

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 03:08 AM

Biyombo > Stiemsma in shot blocking!

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 03:22 AM

Biyombo > Stiemsma in shot blocking!

I think Greg is better, despite being a white boy.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 03:45 AM

^^^

Biyombo is better imo, but that's just my opinion tho

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 05:29 AM

^^^

Biyombo is better imo, but that's just my opinion tho


In shot-blocking? No, certainly not.

See:
http://www.basketbal...yombi01&y2=2012

Long story short: Stiemsma's bpg per 36 minutes: 4.4. Biyombo's: 3.4.

PS. Serge Ibaka's bpg per 36 minutes: 4.3.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 06:13 AM

yeah with serge iblocka and javeel mcgee
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Posted 23 March 2012 - 06:14 AM

...was playing big minutes, in my opinion, he'd be the leading shot blocker in the NBA.

He plays very few minutes and I've seen him blocking 4 shots in 10 minutes or something. He also had a 6 blocks game this season, in few minutes ofcourse.
He has 1.2 blocks in 10.7 minutes.
That means 5.3 blocks per 48!


If he wasn't the top shot blocker, he'd be top-3 for sure.
I think he'd be #1 though.


time and time again I've seen players put up solid rebounding, scoring, block numbers in small amounts of time on the court. Adding 10 more minutes of playing time does not equal the same percentage increase in their stats though. In fact it rarely happens, that's why Jeremy Lin was such a big story. He got more PT and blew up. Most times these bench players get more PT due to an injury and their deficiencies that make them a bench player are exposed moreso than the positives they deliver in shorter periods on the court.
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Posted 23 March 2012 - 06:21 AM

time and time again I've seen players put up solid rebounding, scoring, block numbers in small amounts of time on the court. Adding 10 more minutes of playing time does not equal the same percentage increase in their stats though. In fact it rarely happens, that's why Jeremy Lin was such a big story. He got more PT and blew up. Most times these bench players get more PT due to an injury and their deficiencies that make them a bench player are exposed moreso than the positives they deliver in shorter periods on the court.

Maybe you're right but who knows for sure what would happen with Greg?!

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 07:58 AM

In shot-blocking? No, certainly not.

See:
http://www.basketbal...i01&y2=2012

Long story short: Stiemsma's bpg per 36 minutes: 4.4. Biyombo's: 3.4.

PS. Serge Ibaka's bpg per 36 minutes: 4.3.


Those per 36 minutes stats are irrelevant, Hasheem Thabeet would've had 8.0 blocks per game in 2010 if he played 36 minutes? yeah right

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 09:30 AM

Those per 36 minutes stats are irrelevant, Hasheem Thabeet would've had 8.0 blocks per game in 2010 if he played 36 minutes? yeah right

The thing that he's a scrub doesn't mean he can't block.
He's 7'3" and if he was playing big minutes, he could easily average over 3 bpg.

Remember Bradley?? He was scrub but his height alone made him a shot blocker.
It's not a coincidence that most of the 7'2"+ guys block many shots.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 09:36 AM

The thing that he's a scrub doesn't mean he can't block.
He's 7'3" and if he was playing big minutes, he could easily average over 3 bpg.

Remember Bradley?? He was scrub but his height alone made him a shot blocker.
It's not a coincidence that most of the 7'2"+ guys block many shots.


3 blocks per game? ok
8 blocks? -hell no

I love Thabeet! He was my favorite player from that class.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 09:43 AM

3 blocks per game? ok
8 blocks? -hell no

I love Thabeet! He was my favorite player from that class.

How did you come out with the 8 bpg???

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 09:49 AM

How did you come out with the 8 bpg???


In 2 games as a Rocket in 2010/2011 his blocks per 36 minutes are 9 per game actually.

Lol, i know it's just 2 games :S

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 05:25 AM

time and time again I've seen players put up solid rebounding, scoring, block numbers in small amounts of time on the court. Adding 10 more minutes of playing time does not equal the same percentage increase in their stats though. In fact it rarely happens, that's why Jeremy Lin was such a big story. He got more PT and blew up. Most times these bench players get more PT due to an injury and their deficiencies that make them a bench player are exposed moreso than the positives they deliver in shorter periods on the court.


This is true of course, but not always. Look at Reggie Evans for example. Advanced stats, per 36 minutes stats and pretty much everything indicated that if he did get more playtime, he'd have a solid chance at leading the league in rpg. So last season he finally got his chance of more playtime (until that unfortunate injury) and what happened? 11.5rpg! (15.5 per 36 minutes.)

Those per 36 minutes stats are irrelevant, Hasheem Thabeet would've had 8.0 blocks per game in 2010 if he played 36 minutes? yeah right


Sample size is important as well. Stiemsma's and Biyombo's sample size is becoming rather solid right now. Thabeet's sample size is close to non-existent. He could easily average 4bpg with more playtime though. Like Manute Bol or so.
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