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[Rondo is G.O.A.T]

Rajon Rondo:

13 Points, 12.8 Assists, 5.1 Rebounds, 2.0 Steals, 0.2 Blocks, 3.5 Turnovers, 51.4%FG, 25%3-point, 59.5%FT.

Chris Paul:

16.1 Points, 9.6 Assists, 3.5 Rebounds, 2.7 Steals, 0.0 Blocks, 2.3 Turnovers, 48.4%FG, 31.6%3-point, 89.2%FT.


Rondo is better by: 3.2 assists, 1.6 rebounds, 0.2 blocks, 3.0%FG.

Paul is better by: 3 points, 0.7 steals, 1.2 turnovers, 5.6%3-point, 29.7%FT.


Things to consider:

Rondo only attempts 1.4 3-pointers, and 2.5 free-throws a game. Weigh his FT and 3-point %'s accordingly.

Both players have similar defense, that it is a non factor.

Paul averages 4.4 free throws and 3 3-pointers. Weigh his FT and 3-point %'s accordingly.

Blocks hold very little weight.

Rondo fouls 2.8 times a game, and paul fouls 2.4 times a game. Holds very little weight.

Paul averages 33.7 minutes a game, and Rondo averages 37.3 minutes. Do not discredit a player simply due to playing more minutes. They deserve the credit for what they did, but you can give credit to one player for getting a certain stat in a smaller time.

[Carolina Panthers]

I think someone asked this after the first 15 or so games

[ban me pheggets]

Chris Paul because he isn't a stat-padder. IJS

jk

Chris Paul is the better PG. He is a better leader, he has been clutch as [expletive deleted] this season (unlike rondo who choked badly just the other day) has a really good assist/turnover ratio, and has been a better defender.

/thread

[airWarrior]

Paul. He is the most efficient PG in the league

+23.1 efficiency rating. #2 in assists and #1 in steals, He has the highest assist/turnover ratio in the league for PGs who get significant minutes, and can step up and hit FTs in the clutch when his team needs him

[Rondo is G.O.A.T]

Paul. He is the most efficient PG in the league

+23.1 efficiency rating. #2 in assists and #1 in steals, He has the highest assist/turnover ratio in the league for PGs who get significant minutes, and can step up and hit FTs in the clutch when his team needs him

So you are judging a player so[expletive deleted]y off of how efficient they are, and how much steals they get...?

Rondo has the higher FG%, and shoots very little 3s and free-throws. How efficient they are is very close.

You should probably consider looking at the assist margin, rather than just saying "#2 in assists", and looking at all the other factors.

[probskN]

Better point guard as far as team play goes and stuff? Rajon. Better point guard in stats and efficiency? CP3.

[Jay*]

Chris Paul.

I'm not just looking at stats, there is simply no one in the league that can control the pace and flow of the game like Chris Paul can. Even if you say it's close, I believe (From the games I've watched) that Chris Paul is better on the defensive end in these 20 games. He is more efficient also.

Although it's 1A and 1B at this point.Very close

[Raza 10]

...
Rondooo.

[airWarrior]

So you are judging a player so[expletive deleted]y off of how efficient they are, and how much steals they get...?

Rondo has the higher FG%, and shoots very little 3s and free-throws. How efficient they are is very close.

You should probably consider looking at the assist margin, rather than just saying "#2 in assists", and looking at all the other factors.

Paul shoots way more jumpers and 3's. and is a very good shooter. no duh his FG% is going to be lower tho. and its only 3% lower.

If steals dont matter, why are they even a stat? LOL

[Truth34]

I will take Paul, AirWarrior explained it great. The only thing that puts Paul over the top is his efficiency, and his mid range game. He has a great assist-turnover ratio and his free throw percent is a huge factor. Nothing against Rondo though, his season has been stellar so far.

[Raza 10]

Chris Paul.

I'm not just looking at stats, there is simply no one in the league that can control the pace and flow of the game like Chris Paul can. Even if you say it's close, I believe (From the games I've watched) that Chris Paul is better on the defensive end in these 20 games. He is more efficient also.

Although it's 1A and 1B at this point.Very close

...Rajon Rondo can.

[Rondo is G.O.A.T]

Paul shoots way more jumpers and 3's. and is a very good shooter. no duh his FG% is going to be lower tho. and its only 3% lower.

If steals dont matter, why are they even a stat? LOL

I didn't say they didn't matter. Where did I say that?

Chris paul averages 11.6 attempts to Rondo's 10.9 so you are wrong.

Rondo shoots a considerable amount of jumpers, and if you've watched him, then you won't even debate that.

Well, I'm going to go. Debate this for yourselves.

[The Irving show]

I didn't say they didn't matter. Where did I say that?

Chris paul averages 11.6 attempts to Rondo's 10.9 so you are wrong.

Rondo shoots a considerable amount of jumpers, and if you've watched him, then you won't even debate that.

Well, I'm going to go. Debate this for yourselves.

You are the only one debating its almost unanimously all Chris Paul.

[airWarrior]

I didn't say they didn't matter. Where did I say that?

Chris paul averages 11.6 attempts to Rondo's 10.9 so you are wrong.

Rondo shoots a considerable amount of jumpers, and if you've watched him, then you won't even debate that.

1st off, those are total FG attempts. Paul still shoots more jumpers and 3's. Rondo does shoot jumpers, but most of them are open. Paul shoots contested jumpers more and longer shots because he is a very very good shooter.

also, you did imply steals didnt mater when you said "you are seriously going to base how good he is off steals?"


also, consider that rondo plays almost 4 more mpg, so he is going to have an easier time getting his stats. I realize you cant criticize rondo for this, but just pointing it out again.

[Tony Hops]

Its definitely Paul; and it ain't even close.

He can average 20 if his team needed.

Or he can average 17-10.

[Pusha Key]

Chris Paul's stats have never shown his impact on a team.

Even so Paul's stats>Rondos

[TeoTheGreek13]

Paul because he does more things on the floor (=can score at will and not when defense allows him to).

He's taking over offensively when needed, he's too clutch of a scorer and his FT shooting ability is a big plus in this comparison.
Plus, Paul kills Rondo in WS, WS/48 and TS%. And he has +5 at PER.

[BayArea510]

CP3, and stats don't tell the story. The Clippers are a top team in the west because of his ability to facilitate an offense or, if needed, score at will. That's why CP3 is an MVP candidate.

Rondo has the better stats though.

[DJ.]

Being honest, I was expecting more out of both players this season. Have not been impressed with any.


I think its about even, but I'll take Rondo by a small margin

[Diamantidis is GOAT]

Rajon Rondo:

13 Points, 12.8 Assists, 5.1 Rebounds, 2.0 Steals, 0.2 Blocks, 3.5 Turnovers, 51.4%FG, 25%3-point, 59.5%FT.

Chris Paul:

16.1 Points, 9.6 Assists, 3.5 Rebounds, 2.7 Steals, 0.0 Blocks, 2.3 Turnovers, 48.4%FG, 31.6%3-point, 89.2%FT.


Rondo is better by: 3.2 assists, 1.6 rebounds, 0.2 blocks, 3.0%FG.

Paul is better by: 3 points, 0.7 steals, 1.2 turnovers, 5.6%3-point, 29.7%FT.


Things to consider:

Rondo only attempts 1.4 3-pointers, and 2.5 free-throws a game. Weigh his FT and 3-point %'s accordingly.

Both players have similar defense, that it is a non factor.

Paul averages 4.4 free throws and 3 3-pointers. Weigh his FT and 3-point %'s accordingly.

Blocks hold very little weight.

Rondo fouls 2.8 times a game, and paul fouls 2.4 times a game. Holds very little weight.

Paul averages 33.7 minutes a game, and Rondo averages 37.3 minutes. Do not discredit a player simply due to playing more minutes. They deserve the credit for what they did, but you can give credit to one player for getting a certain stat in a smaller time.

Statistiacally: Rondo.
Stats and everything weighed in: Paul with a slight edge.