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#21 OFFLINE   PaulTrillsap

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 01:48 PM

Like we believe we're gonna win the championship...

But don't give me the "And even if the bulls do win the division, so what?" stuff. Just stick with your opinion on who wins the Division cuz I'll remember this thread.
Also, when the Bulls played with the Pacers we didn't have Rip either. JS.

And what exactly would the Pacers do if they knew Granger would be out?? Replace him? Please. You can't replace your best player. You can't afford it.

But I'm used to people like you who believe that the Bulls are nothing without Rose. You don't watch the games so your opinion doesn't hold much water here. I've seen a good amount of Pacers and Bucks games to now what I'm saying. And of course, as almost everyone you overlook coaches' impact so much.

Like I said though, I'll remember this thread. Even if Rose returns in March, I believe we win the Division unless we have key injuries.

lol the OP believes they can. The pacers would've been prepared to play w/o granger, nobody said anything about replacing him because you can't. They would've known how to play w/o granger, the bulls had the entire off-season to prepare their game plan. Bc the bulls are nothing w/o rose. Rose is probably going to get injured again when he returns lol. Thibs isn't as great as you think he is. I remember on one thread you called him a top 3 coach in the league ( :rofl:) He hasn't done enough to be considered a top 3 coach. He's entering his third full season as a head coach, his third season. Understand that one season w/ the best record in the league then getting embarrassed by miami, then another season getting beat in the first round doesn't make you a top 3 coach. If he was so great they would've beaten philly.

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 01:58 PM

lol the OP believes they can. The pacers would've been prepared to play w/o granger, nobody said anything about replacing him because you can't. They would've known how to play w/o granger, the bulls had the entire off-season to prepare their game plan. Bc the bulls are nothing w/o rose. Rose is probably going to get injured again when he returns lol. Thibs isn't as great as you think he is. I remember on one thread you called him a top 3 coach in the league ( :rofl:) He hasn't done enough to be considered a top 3 coach. He's entering his third full season as a head coach, his third season. Understand that one season w/ the best record in the league then getting embarrassed by miami, then another season getting beat in the first round doesn't make you a top 3 coach. If he was so great they would've beaten philly.

You really piss me off and I think you do it on purpose.

First of all, ALMOST EVERYONE on this site puts Thibs in the top 3. What you're telling me is that you gotta have a certain amount of seasons in order to be judged? In those 2 and a half seasons, Thibs' team hasn't catch a break and he always misses key guys and he still has an insane record. He led a team to the best record in the league in his first 2 seasons. All the experts say that he's the best defensive mind in the league and I can say that he made Korver and now Belinelli play defense, cuz if you don't play defense you don't play at all in the Bulls.
PS is a different story, and no one could win that series without Rose. Not even [enter your GOAT coach] could do it.

And let me tell you how wrong what you say about the Pacers and Granger is. The Bulls last season proved that you don't need time (especially in the RS) to adjust your game at the absence of player even if that's the MVP. If your team doesn't entirely depend on a player and has it's defense and rebounding still there, they still win basketball games.


And here is the part that pissed me off cuz I realised I waste my time talking to a clueless hater like you.
"Bc the bulls are nothing w/o rose. Rose is probably going to get injured again when he returns lol."
Go watch some basketball games and stop making a fool of yourself.

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 02:07 PM

You really piss me off and I think you do it on purpose.

First of all, ALMOST EVERYONE on this site puts Thibs in the top 3. What you're telling me is that you gotta have a certain amount of seasons in order to be judged? In those 2 and a half seasons, Thibs' team hasn't catch a break and he always misses key guys and he still has an insane record. He led a team to the best record in the league in his first 2 seasons. All the experts say that he's the best defensive mind in the league and I can say that he made Korver and now Belinelli play defense, cuz if you don't play defense you don't play at all in the Bulls.
PS is a different story, and no one could win that series without Rose. Not even [enter your GOAT coach] could do it.

And let me tell you how wrong what you say about the Pacers and Granger is. The Bulls last season proved that you don't need time (especially in the RS) to adjust your game at the absence of player even if that's the MVP. If your team doesn't entirely depend on a player and has it's defense and rebounding still there, they still win basketball games.


And here is the part that pissed me off cuz I realised I waste my time talking to a clueless hater like you.
"Bc the bulls are nothing w/o rose. Rose is probably going to get injured again when he returns lol."
Go watch some basketball games and stop making a fool of yourself.

SMH. When Rondo is GOAT reps a comment of yours, you gotta worry.
See ya.

We don't know that. I've never seen a coach become a top 3 coach after 1 1/2 seasons. He's the best defensive coach in the RS, he hasn't accomplished anything in the PS. Your getting so defensive, why would that upset you? What you think the bulls w/o rose are equivalent to miami or something? He's playing noah and deng 41+ mpg every game. He's relying heavily on noah and deng. And i don't get whats so great about noah that you bulls fans keep bragging about. He certainly isn't a all star. All he's doing is playing more minutes then last season and being more involved in the offense. His offensive game still revolves around put-backs. You can continue to be optimistic about the bulls, don't be surprised if they fail to make the playoffs or get bounced in the first round

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 02:09 PM

SMH. When Rondo is GOAT reps a comment of yours, you gotta worry.
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Posted 16 December 2012 - 07:37 PM

He hasn't done enough to be considered a top 3 coach. He's entering his third full season as a head coach, his third season. Understand that one season w/ the best record in the league then getting embarrassed by miami, then another season getting beat in the first round doesn't make you a top 3 coach. If he was so great they would've beaten philly.


The number of seasons he's coached is irrelevant. What matters is his ability to coach and his success. He's the best defensive coach in the NBA. He's had the best record in the league two seasons in a row, and could have won coach of the year both seasons (he did his first season).

I don't know what playoff series you watched where the Bulls were embarrassed by Miami. The only embarrassing game in that series was Game 1 in which the Bulls won in a blowout. Every other game in that series came down to the final few minutes of regulation or overtime.

During his second season the team lost in the playoffs only after his best player and third best player went down. Take the first and third best player off any playoff team and they won't go far in the playoffs being replaced by inexperienced backups. Not to mention the Bulls starting two-guard had barely played that season and the second best player was playing with a wrist injury.

Thibodeau may not be a top three coach in the league, but the argument you make here really doesn't make a strong case against him.
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Posted 16 December 2012 - 09:01 PM

The number of seasons he's coached is irrelevant. What matters is his ability to coach and his success. He's the best defensive coach in the NBA. He's had the best record in the league two seasons in a row, and could have won coach of the year both seasons (he did his first season).

I don't know what playoff series you watched where the Bulls were embarrassed by Miami. The only embarrassing game in that series was Game 1 in which the Bulls won in a blowout. Every other game in that series came down to the final few minutes of regulation or overtime.

During his second season the team lost in the playoffs only after his best player and third best player went down. Take the first and third best player off any playoff team and they won't go far in the playoffs being replaced by inexperienced backups. Not to mention the Bulls starting two-guard had barely played that season and the second best player was playing with a wrist injury.

Thibodeau may not be a top three coach in the league, but the argument you make here really doesn't make a strong case against him.

He's a great coach, theres no denying that. Winning COTY in his first season as a HC and then having the best record in the league for 2 straight years (tied w/ the spurs last season) speaks volume. He's the best defensive coach in the RS, he hasn't done anything in the PS to be acknowledged as the best defensive coach in both RS and PS. And game 5 was a embarrassing game. The bulls were up 13 or 14 or whatever it was with like 3 minutes to go and choked. Dwade had a 4 point play and lebron couldn't be stop, and rose got blocked on the GW FGA. Only thing that really aggravated me was the user calling him a top 3 coach after 1 1/2 seasons in the league. He might get there someday but he hasn't done enough to be in that conversation

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 10:15 PM

He's the best defensive coach in the RS, he hasn't done anything in the PS to be acknowledged as the best defensive coach in both RS and PS.


How has he not done anything?

In 22 playoff games, the Bulls have allowed 100 or more points only four times. They’ve held their opponents to 90 or fewer points 15 times. Teams have averaged 87.6 points per game on 0.426% shooting against the Bulls in the post-season. By comparison to the last two regular seasons, the Bulls gave up 89.9 points per on 0.426%. So they allow the same shooting percentage while giving up two fewer points. In other words, they were just as good in the post-season defensively as they were in the regular season.

I don’t see how you can suggest Thibodeau is the best defensive coach in the regular season, then argue he’s “done nothing” in the post-season when the Bulls defense has remained constant.

And game 5 was a embarrassing game. The bulls were up 13 or 14 or whatever it was with like 3 minutes to go and choked. Dwade had a 4 point play and lebron couldn't be stop, and rose got blocked on the GW FGA.


You're right about game 5, but my post spoke about the series as a whole just as the quoted portion of your post I responded to did. From that standpoint, there is no argument to be made for the Bulls having been embarrassed.

Only thing that really aggravated me was the user calling him a top 3 coach after 1 1/2 seasons in the league. He might get there someday but he hasn't done enough to be in that conversation


Like I said before, he may not be a top three coach, but I don't see what him only coaching three seasons has to do with that. According to your logic, Mike Brown is a better coach than Thibodeau because he's coached longer and done more (coached a team to the NBA Finals, had best record in the league multiple seasons, won coach of the year), yet I doubt you'd be willing to go out on a limb and argue that point.
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 11:39 AM

YES. you guys could be. The Heat don't scare nobody.







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Posted 11 January 2013 - 03:14 PM

I really don't see it happening...

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 09:43 PM

I forgot you are always right and I will forever be in the wrong, Mr. IM FROM GREECE LOOK AT ME.

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 05:58 PM

it may be possible ... really because we beat more than 2 greatest teams in the EC......especially the Heat..... and as for them Bulls players ...there gonna give them a heck of a basketball they're willing to play for.....also we may end up on the finals too !

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 09:49 PM

Of course. The East blows.

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 11:53 PM

Bulls never go be contenders as long as they surround Derrick FROZE with a supporting cast of Luol SHAME, JOKEkim Noah, and Carlos LOOZER.lol
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Posted 16 January 2013 - 06:03 PM

Bulls will still make playoffs they are just a playmaking team instead a fastbreak type without Rose. I mean they still are doing better than teams with 2 stars *cough* Nets.




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