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#1 OFFLINE   Dante

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 12:10 AM


In case you've missed it, his mental lapses on defense are just as strenuous and nerve-wrecking as his offensive mistakes...
as evidenced by the game winner by Tony Parker.

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 12:13 AM

Meh, talent > IQ. That's why you'd rather have RW than Jason Kidd.

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 12:15 AM

Meh, talent > IQ. That's why you'd rather have RW than Jason Kidd.

Or you'd rather have JaVale McGee over oh, wait...

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 12:25 AM

I'd argue that he is a championship point guard....He did everything in his power for OKC to win the ship last year.

Too bad Harden was nowhere to be found and Durant got in foul trouble.
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Posted 24 December 2012 - 12:28 AM

I'd argue that he is a championship point guard....He did everything in his power for OKC to win the ship last year.

For me, he is an elite level PG, but decision making and off-ball defense are what is restraining him from being the archetypal/metaphorical "Championship point guard".

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 12:31 AM

Meh, talent > IQ. That's why you'd rather have RW than Jason Kidd.

Bad example, Jason Kidd is nearing 40 years old
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Posted 24 December 2012 - 12:40 AM

For me, he is an elite level PG, but decision making and off-ball defense are what is restraining him from being the archetypal/metaphorical "Championship point guard".


I'd never heard the word archetypal used before now. You get a star for that.

All I know is that the Thunder managed to best the Spurs sweep the Mavs and dismantle the Lakers without that prototypical championship point guard. Something I thought would hold the Thunder back last year, but he made me look stupid series after series after series. If he actually managed to improve his off ball D, decision making and shot selection the dude would be a top 5 player in the league. His ceiling is that freaking high. He's averaging 9 assists per game while still jacking up 18 shots a night getting to the like 6 times a game and turning the ball over 3. If he were to improve that how great could this guy become?

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 12:44 AM

Or you'd rather have JaVale McGee over oh, wait...


JaVale > errebody

Bad example, Jason Kidd is nearing 40 years old


Yeah... even prime though I'd rather have Russel

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 02:20 AM

they should have traded westbrook for CP3 then OKC could have won the whole thing

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 05:35 AM

JaVale > errebody



Yeah... even prime though I'd rather have Russel


Kidd in his prime with Durant,Harden,Ibaka and Perkins=insta championship.Kidd would get Durant and Harden all the shots they need,doing a very good job on defending wade in the same time.
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Posted 24 December 2012 - 05:42 AM

Meh, talent > IQ. That's why you'd rather have RW than Jason Kidd.

so Javale>Duncan

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 07:33 AM

I disagree about him not being a championship caliber point guard. Last year, maybe not, but this year I think he is. He still has his mental lapses and sometimes falls asleep on defense, but he's taken smarter shots this year and is getting a lot more assists per game than he did last year.

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 10:14 AM

Meh, talent > IQ. That's why you'd rather have RW than Jason Kidd.

False, Kidd in his prime was way better

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 10:21 AM

I'd never heard the word archetypal used before now. You get a star for that.

All I know is that the Thunder managed to best the Spurs sweep the Mavs and dismantle the Lakers without that prototypical championship point guard. Something I thought would hold the Thunder back last year, but he made me look stupid series after series after series. If he actually managed to improve his off ball D, decision making and shot selection the dude would be a top 5 player in the league. His ceiling is that freaking high. He's averaging 9 assists per game while still jacking up 18 shots a night getting to the like 6 times a game and turning the ball over 3. If he were to improve that how great could this guy become?

No doubt his ceiling is very high. And what a lot of people overlook is his hunger, work ethic commitment to get better, and always trying to improve on ALL facets of the game. Not a lot of young players are like that now a days. The Thunder do need his scoring, and I believe they can win with Russell Wesbtrook one day, and as I said, Westbrook is indeed a top tier PG, but I think Coach Nick's problem is more about him not being the prototypical PG.
But going off that, there are probably only about 3 "championship point guards" in the league right now.

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 10:34 AM

I feel like because he is so athletic he thinks it makes up for his bad decision making. When he messes up you'll see him use his speed on the next play to sort of outdo the bad play before.

Overall I think he is or can be a championship level point guard.
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Posted 24 December 2012 - 11:40 AM

JaVale > errebody



Yeah... even prime though I'd rather have Russel

No, Kidd was an elite defender, tremendous rebounder, and one of the best passers in the league. Kidd led the Nets whose second scoring options were Kenyon Martin and Kerry Kittles to the NBA Finals. Last year the Thunder may have won the championship with prime Kidd. He would guard Dwyane Wade, let Durant dominate, get others involved and hit clutch shots.

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 12:10 PM

Coach Nick nails it.

It's unbelieveable how many things your PG can do wrong in one game on both ends! Lol!
Like I've said before, Westbrook is only good at man 2 man defense. His overall defense is average at best.

His decision making is bad. Whoever saw the series against the Spurs last season should rep this post... :cool:


When and if RW matures, then Thunder's chances for a championship will skyrocket (=championship).
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