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**James Harden or Dwyane Wade?? Who is better and WHY?

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I don't think I'm being bias when I say still Dwyane Wade. Harden's scoring on higher volume, but not with more efficiency, as he's only shooting 45%.

Wade's above the 50% mark, and their other stats look very similar. The factor here, was knowing Wade has taken the second fiddle option, while Harden has actually become the first, on a worse team. Naturally, Harden is playing 38 minutes a game while Wade is clocking in 33 and producing more or less what Harden is, but with less shots taken.

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I don't think I'm being bias when I say still Dwyane Wade. Harden's scoring on higher volume, but not with more efficiency, as he's only shooting 45%.

Wade's above the 50% mark, and their other stats look very similar. The factor here, was knowing Wade has taken the second fiddle option, while Harden has actually become the first, on a worse team. Naturally, Harden is playing 38 minutes a game while Wade is clocking in 33 and producing more or less what Harden is, but with less shots taken.

Yeah, I say that Wade is still better. Dante's post basically summed up everything I was gonna say.

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Literally the only way you can compare them right now is because Wade is banged up and 7 years older.

I'll still take Wade.

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Per 36: Wade 22.1 pts, 4.6 rebs, 5 asts, .579 TS%,

Harden 24.2pts, 4.2 rebs, 5 asts, .604TS%

Statistically it's Harden, as he scores more points, more efficiently, assists equally with poorer teammates and rebounds just as well. In the past, i would give it to Wade because he plays better defense but his defense is terrible this season so I give it to Harden

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Per 36: Wade 22.1 pts, 4.6 rebs, 5 asts, .579 TS%,

Harden 24.2pts, 4.2 rebs, 5 asts, .604TS%

Statistically it's Harden, as he scores more points, more efficiently, assists equally with poorer teammates and rebounds just as well. In the past, i would give it to Wade because he plays better defense but his defense is terrible this season so I give it to Harden

I'd like to see those stats with Harden playing with Lebron and Bosh.

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I'd like to see those stats with Harden playing with Lebron and Bosh.

Just look last year when he played with Westbrook and Durant...

Rounding up.... 17pts 4rebs 4 ast.

I'm not knocking Harden, but I think that Wade not being 100% and 7 years older is the only thing that makes this even debatable.

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I'd like to see those stats with Harden playing with Lebron and Bosh.

The TS% would go tgrough the roof

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The TS% would go tgrough the roof

Who cares

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/statistics/_/sort/trueShootingPct

Doesn't say much about the overall game of the player

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Well Honestly his scoring is a bit higher because of the offense the rockets play which is run and gun

As for the heat they play a offense based around James more than they would rely on Wade .

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Who cares

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/statistics/_/sort/trueShootingPct

Doesn't say much about the overall game of the player

Its the ultimate way of calculating efficiency (3pts and FT% are included), Harden scores more points, more efficiently, assists as much even if he plays with acrubs and plays better D.

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Dwyane Wade has a lower usage rate than James Harden and is still putting up around the same numbers.

Which is why Wade is better

Its the ultimate way of calculating efficiency (3pts and FT% are included), Harden scores more points, more efficiently, assists as much even if he plays with scrubs and plays better D.

Of course if you play with scrubs you are going to get more points assists, ect. Those numbers would decrease with playing with Lebron and Bosh if he and Wade switched places.

His efficiency wouldn't really change significantly no matter who he plays with, only his totals.

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Which is why Wade is better

Of course if you play with scrubs you are going to get more points assists, ect. Those numbers would decrease with playing with Lebron and Bosh if he and Wade switched places.

His efficiency wouldn't really change significantly no matter who he plays with, only his totals.

Why wouldnt his efficiency go up if the other numbers go down, you don't make sense

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Wade still, but really, this season, its closer than a lot would think.

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Why wouldnt his efficiency go up if the other numbers go down, you don't make sense

Dude..

Because totals have nothing to do with efficiency.

Hypothetical:

10/20 = 50%fg 20 points

5/10=50%fg 10 points

Same efficiency

Harden would have much less shot attempts and other stat totals on the Heat. Efficiency wouldn't necessarily decrease.

Harden's TS% is barely different from last year, but his numbers this year are much metter.

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Probly dwade because the numbers he puts up with LBJ andvBosh. But also the reason Harden is less efficient is because he's the main point the defense looks at, when you have Lebron James on your team then of course you efficiency will go up as you get more open looks and you don't have to take bad shots as often. Also not tonamention Boshand all those three point shooters that could get him more easy bucjets.

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Probly dwade because the numbers he puts up with LBJ andvBosh. But also the reason Harden is less efficient is because he's the main point the defense looks at, when you have Lebron James on your team then of course you efficiency will go up as you get more open looks and you don't have to take bad shots as often. Also not tonamention Boshand all those three point shooters that could get him more easy bucjets.

Hes more efficient this year than he has been his entire career IJS. Look at the PER

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Hes more efficient this year than he has been his entire career IJS. Look at the PER

When I say efficient I mean FG%, it's no surprise it went down from transitioning from third option to first option. So what I'm saying is if he played with Bosh and LBJ he'd have a lot less points, probly less assists, same rebounds but equal or higher FG% than Wade.

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When I say efficient I mean FG%, it's no surprise it went down from transitioning from third option to first option. So what I'm saying is if he played with Bosh and LBJ he'd have a lot less points, probly less assists, same rebounds but equal or higher FG% than Wade.

Debatable, it would probably increase a lil. But, before Lebron and Bosh came Wade always had a high FG%. A big reason for Hardens FG% decrease is 3 point shooting.

But anyways I agree Wade>>Harden

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Dude..

Because totals have nothing to do with efficiency.

Hypothetical:

10/20 = 50%fg 20 points

5/10=50%fg 10 points

Same efficiency

Harden would have much less shot attempts and other stat totals on the Heat. Efficiency wouldn't necessarily decrease.

Harden's TS% is barely different from last year, but his numbers this year are much metter.

So you think that he wouldnt be more open playing with Bron and Bosh? Last season he was a BENCH player which means he still played a lot of minutes with the second unit. Being a starter in Miami, his efficiency would go through the roof

When I say efficient I mean FG%, it's no surprise it went down from transitioning from third option to first option. So what I'm saying is if he played with Bosh and LBJ he'd have a lot less points, probly less assists, same rebounds but equal or higher FG% than Wade.

FG% is a trash stat, penalize 3pt shooters

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So you think that he wouldnt be more open playing with Bron and Bosh? Last season he was a BENCH player which means he still played a lot of minutes with the second unit. Being a starter in Miami, his efficiency would go through the roof

FG% is a trash stat, penalize 3pt shooters

what are you talking about? You've used that stat to knock on my favorite player many times( not gonna say his name so it doesn't start a debate about that)

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