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How many PPG could LeBron average if he was a score-first player?

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The reason why Lebron is looked at as the best player in the NBA is because of the versatility he has. He does everything well. He leads the Heat in points, rebounds, assists, and steals.... but what if he just focused on scoring? How many PPG could he average?

I say 35-38 PPG in his prime

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30

well he's averaged over 30 before and also averaged 7 rebounds and 7 assists......

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About 32 while still being able to keep his other stats up. If Wade wasn't on the team he could get about 30-32.

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well he's averaged over 30 before and also averaged 7 rebounds and 7 assists......

i meant 30-35

anything higher than 35 seems too unrealistic

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He would up there in the high 30's but he is not selfish , he is not Kobe.

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Well, on normal FGA for a score-first guy (=22-23 FGA), he could average something less than 35.

But that's too hypothetical.
James might be pass first (I actually think that he's neither, he'll just take the better option) but he handles the ball too much.
He averages a bit more FGA than Durant who doesn't have the ball so much but he's score-first.

I mean, he takes decent amount of shots. He just has a great decision making ability which makes us believe that him scoring at 55% means that he just doesn't shoot much. Well, he shoots more than KD and he passes the ball many times as well. He just has an awesome decision making ability.

Derrick Rose, who many people think that he jacks up shots, he averaged 19.7 FGA in his MVP season which was by far his biggest average. My point is that James takes a good amount of shots for this era. Even Melo who takes shot after shot doing nothing else, he takes 21.7 FGA (Kobe has fewer).

If James was score first, he wouldn't have the ball that much time in his hands. He holds the ball much time now, because his role is to distribute as well.

Just some food for thought.

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IMO Not much more than right now...

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27 - 30

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i meant 30-35

anything higher than 35 seems too unrealistic

I don't see why. Remember, he's a slasher first and he's strong enough to finish AND1 plays with ease... if he doesn't get that, he'd get free throws. Considering how much the game benefits those type of players, he'll get a lot of attempts at the charity. (He's got the needed reputation to get away with fouls that aren't really fouls sometimes). Throw in the fact that James, besides running the brake beyond well, is capable to get himself into easy scoring chances with his cuts... now he goes to the post often and his jumper is better.

Assuming he's shots like 25 attempts from the field and gets like 15 free throw attempts a game and he makes half of his attempts, I don't see why he wouldn't average over that number. He's in his peak and if this was important to him, I can see him achieving it. Very few teams can contain him anyway... and even the top defenses in the league are helpless when facing him. Throw in the fact that he wouldn't face a lot of those teams and would face teams like Bobcats which he'd murder easily... Throw in any all time great scorer like Jordan, Wilt, Ice etc and they'd all average over 30 points IMO.

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Well, on normal FGA for a score-first guy (=22-23 FGA), he could average something less than 35.

But that's too hypothetical.

James might be pass first (I actually think that he's neither, he'll just take the better option) but he handles the ball too much.

He averages a bit more FGA than Durant who doesn't have the ball so much but he's score-first.

james doesnt shoot more than KD, he has .5 more FGA but 2.5 less FTA

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james doesnt shoot more than KD, he has .5 more FGA but 2.5 less FTA

Ok, but James got the ball much more time than Durant as I said.

Besides, that wasn't even my point. I wasn't compairing the two.

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35ppg on 45-47%

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Probably in the high 30's. All he has to do really is drive to the point lol, whose going to stop him?

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Its hard to say. Nobody in the league has averaged 30 in the last couple seasons. Only a handful of players in NBA history have averaged 35 PPG in a season. If he was on a bad team and a score first player then I think 33-35 would be possible for prime LeBron. I think his FG% and and assists would take a hit though.

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However many he wanted. His career high is 31 while still getting 8assists and 8boards so if lower the assists to say about 5 and add 3 shots or and a couple free throws realistically 36-40 wouldn't be too hard for him to do.

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However many he wanted. His career high is 31 while still getting 8assists and 8boards so if lower the assists to say about 5 and add 3 shots or and a couple free throws realistically 36-40 wouldn't be too hard for him to do.

Ok, we talk about basketball games though, not James calling five guys to test his talent against them...

And if James averaged 36-40 and still maintaining his all-around stats, then what would Jordan average? 45?

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Ok, we talk about basketball games though, not James calling five guys to test his talent against them...

And if James averaged 36-40 and still maintaining his all-around stats, then what would Jordan average? 45?

You do realize like his 3rd or 4th year in the league he averaged 31points per game on 8assists and 8boards? Factor in the fact that his game has expanded greatly from that and add in the fact that since he would be a score first player aka more of a ball hog 36-40 isn't unrealistic at all.

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You do realize like his 3rd or 4th year in the league he averaged 31points per game on 8assists and 8boards? Factor in the fact that his game has expanded greatly from that and add in the fact that since he would be a score first player aka more of a ball hog 36-40 isn't unrealistic at all.

You realise the difference between 30 (that was his peak, not 31) and 36? Not to say 40.

And again, what Jordan would average by the same logic? 50?

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40 is way too high. if i'm not mistaken, Wilt is the only guy to average that much.

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You relise the difference between 30 (that was his peak, not 31) and 36? Not to say 40.

And again, what Jordan would average by the same logic? 50?

You realize he averaged 8 assists(I believe) while averaging that 30?? That year he was a pass first player that happened to average 30 this thread is about what he would score as a score first player meaning he takes more shots and passes less. Michael Jordan averaged 37 on 27 shots in his highest career scoring year. Lebron this season is averaging 26 on 18 shots. Your saying with 9 more shots and some more free throws Lebron couldn't averaging between 36-40? And yes if you take away all the hand checking people did on MJ it's not unrealistic for him to average over 40 also. MJ would shoot a lot more free throws in this era.

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